'In such a short period she contributed so much to athletics, much more than medal winning and records. Her vivacity and personality mirrored the sport, its fun, the hard work, the failure and the success, perfectly.' (John Rodda, 'The Guardian')
'In such a short period she contributed so much to athletics, much more than medal winning and records. Her vivacity and personality mirrored the sport, its fun, the hard work, the failure and the success, perfectly.' (John Rodda, 'The Guardian')
I’m a little puzzled why over the last 25 years MD performances in this country have deteriorated. Maybe it’s simply that training sessions in the old system have been thrown out of the window and replaced with methods introduced by modern day coaches introducing non scientific training methods.
Let me start my number one reason and maybe others can suggest their opinions.
1. Too much emphasis on tempo runs.
I know from a well known sports scientist that these tempo runs do not produce the desired training effect as the athlete and coach wish.
Over to you
If athletes train in competitive groups won’t they race it out between themselves and leave their best times in the training session. I’m a great believer especially 800m athletes doing track sessions the majority of the time by themselves to develop a front running style and a tougher mental attitude. Based on this do you need a group it’s my experience in a group environment athletes sit in and don’t push themselves. This is mainly for male athletes.
I’m a little puzzled why over the last 25 years MD performances in this country have deteriorated. Maybe it’s simply that training sessions in the old system have been thrown out of the window and replaced with methods introduced by modern day coaches introducing non scientific training methods.
Let me start my number one reason and maybe others can suggest their opinions.
1. Too much emphasis on tempo runs.
You've titled the thread "50 ways to stop the decline of MD running" yet your first point is a negative reason not a positive solution. I presume you should have put "less emphasis on tempo runs" as a way forward to stop the decline?
As you've started with one suggestion I'll add the following:
2. Think long term - years not months.
3. Race over a wider range of distances. Not just 800m for "800m specialists" or 1500m for "1500m specialists"
4. Do more cross country and/or road races.
5. Train in groups which have an element of competition in them.
6. Stick with a coach until you are sure you've reached your limit together.
7. Don't do your best runs in training sessions.
8. Experiment in races. Find out what works for the athlete and what doesn't.
'In such a short period she contributed so much to athletics, much more than medal winning and records. Her vivacity and personality mirrored the sport, its fun, the hard work, the failure and the success, perfectly.' (John Rodda, 'The Guardian')
Re: 'Pass the parcel' NeonTiger's Sports Quiz « Result #8 Yesterday at 5:34pm »
That's right Neon. Tanui ran 1.44.65 to beat Neil Horsfield 1.45.44 in the 1990 Welsh Games in Wrexham. That was a fabulous meeting and to quote Max Boyce "I was there."
... and if you do well in a competition wearing a special pair of underpants, its a good idea to always wear those same underpants for future competitions.
'In such a short period she contributed so much to athletics, much more than medal winning and records. Her vivacity and personality mirrored the sport, its fun, the hard work, the failure and the success, perfectly.' (John Rodda, 'The Guardian')
'In such a short period she contributed so much to athletics, much more than medal winning and records. Her vivacity and personality mirrored the sport, its fun, the hard work, the failure and the success, perfectly.' (John Rodda, 'The Guardian')
Seven US runners have lost a preliminary ruling in their bid to keep Olympic relay medals taken away after Marion Jones was banned for doping.
Jones, who has admitted to using banned substances, helped the US women win gold in the 4x400m relay and bronze in the 4x100m at the 2000 Sydney Games.
A motion by the runners against the stripping of their medals was rejected by the Court of Arbitration for Sport.
The court will now summon the parties to a hearing on the merits of the case.
The IOC stripped all the relay medals in 2008 and CAS upheld the IOC's right to decide on them.
Andrea Anderson, LaTasha Colander Clark, Jearl Miles-Clark, Torri Edwards, Chryste Gaines, Monique Hennagan and Passion Richardson asked CAS to rule on a preliminary basis to determine if the International Olympic Committee (IOC) was entitled to disqualify the 4x100m and 4x400m teams more than seven years after the Sydney Games.
They hoped CAS would declare that the IOC was prevented from withdrawing their medals on the basis of a rule from the Olympic Charter which states "no decision taken in the context of the Olympic Games can be challenged after a period of three years from the day of the closing ceremony of such Games."
CAS felt that the three-year rule did not prevent the IOC from acting as they did, arguing the distribution of medals is not in itself a "decision".
Jones was stripped of her five medals, including gold in the 100m and 200m and bronze in the long jump.
Re: 'Pass the parcel' NeonTiger's Sports Quiz « Result #17 on Dec 18, 2009, 11:53pm »
A few strange combinations of events of athletes I have either trained with or coached include a triple jump/discus double gold at the AAA Under 17 Champs, a GB Under 20 pole vault international who became a GB Under 23 high jump international and an athlete who won the Welsh Under 15 Indoor 60m Hurdles title in the same month she won the Welsh Schools Cross Country title!
Anyway, my next question is totally unrelated. Which athlete ran a 1.44 800m in North Wales?
Re: 'Pass the parcel' NeonTiger's Sports Quiz « Result #19 on Dec 18, 2009, 8:35pm »
Think I'm going to in future. Happy to pass the parcel over to Jack if judgement is that either of his close calls fit well enough - seems wrong to disallow answers for the athletes being too successful - one of those occasions when only a certain amount of what you intend comes across in writing.
If we're still on this one clues are. male, and 1930s.
Re: 'Pass the parcel' NeonTiger's Sports Quiz « Result #20 on Dec 18, 2009, 8:32pm »
Working on a hunch that this might be a triple jumper following an earlier post I will try Jack Metcalfe (Australia). Former world record holder in triple jump, 1936 Olympic bronze medallist, 1934 Commonwealths long jump bronze and 1938 javelin bronze. He also won two Commonwealth triple jump titles.
'In such a short period she contributed so much to athletics, much more than medal winning and records. Her vivacity and personality mirrored the sport, its fun, the hard work, the failure and the success, perfectly.' (John Rodda, 'The Guardian')
'In such a short period she contributed so much to athletics, much more than medal winning and records. Her vivacity and personality mirrored the sport, its fun, the hard work, the failure and the success, perfectly.' (John Rodda, 'The Guardian')
'In such a short period she contributed so much to athletics, much more than medal winning and records. Her vivacity and personality mirrored the sport, its fun, the hard work, the failure and the success, perfectly.' (John Rodda, 'The Guardian')
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Re: 50 ways to stop the decline of MD running « Result #26 on Dec 18, 2009, 1:46pm »
I reckon athletes should start eating fish and chips to include mushy peas at least once a week. The modern day athletes are missing this important meal.
Re: 'Pass the parcel' NeonTiger's Sports Quiz « Result #27 on Dec 18, 2009, 10:50am »
Yvette won medals in 3 other events as well as long jump (javelin too) so actually too multi-talented for this question. Galina Zybina arguably fits depending on interpretation of "an olympic medal" by which I meant one.
To clarify, none of the medals were track or multi-events.
Small clue - or could be seen as clarification. 2 of the events are from one event group. One from another. (by event group I mean throws, jumps etc) so in this case I'd regard javelin as related to shot - although if she hadn't won too many Olympic medals I think you're correct in your comment about it not being related Jack and would have to concede the Galina Zybina.
Writing these questions and checking the answers is far more difficult than I realised
« Last Edit: Dec 18, 2009, 11:36am by fatmanrunning »
Re: 'Pass the parcel' NeonTiger's Sports Quiz « Result #31 on Dec 18, 2009, 8:21am »
I think Galina Zybina actually fits: She was a world record holder in shot put as well as Olympic champion. In 1950 she won a bronze medal in the EC's javelin. In 1954 she was EC in shot put as well as in discus. Javelin acutually is not associated with discus and shot put. But anyway, you are looking for another athlete. To understand your question right: Only THE OTHER two medals were not won in track events or multi events.? The Olympic medal could have been won in a track or multi event?
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Re: Question Time « Result #34 on Dec 17, 2009, 10:05pm »
Its Thursday therefore its Question Time
Last weeks answer was indeed Mark Sesay – well done 1lap2go
Todays question is as follows:
Which well known athlete was involved with Fulham Caucus which was a group of Tory right wingers? In other words they were very much “Pink Tories” and they frequently lunched at the Carlton Tower Hotel in London .
Just come across your post and I have to admit that I found the content of it surprising. Have you ever actually spoken to anyone at Global sponsorship group? I signed with them, looking for sponsorship and to be honest it has been the best thing I have ever done.
I have been juggling the pressure of university, a full time job and my passion for athletics for a while and wasn’t really getting anywhere (I’m sure many of you can relate?!) My sponsorship package was over 20 grand which covers my wages so I have been able to quit my job and focus 100 % on what I want to do.
I understand that Global Sponsorship Group are relatively unknown which is where your concern might stem from. To be honest, I felt the same way as you at first but after speaking to them and reading about Mark Lewis-Francis being sponsored in the Telegraph, athletics weekly and Sky Sports I felt alot more reassured. The way I understand it, you are not charged until a sponsor has been found and If you’re not happy with the sponsor you can get a refund. (But that is all written on their website so I’m sure you already know that)
The way I see it, I tried to do it on my own and it hasn’t worked for me so far, so why not get some help and so far so great!!
Did you wirte that all by yourself love2? I heard not.
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Re: 50 ways to stop the decline of MD running « Result #37 on Dec 17, 2009, 3:26pm »
S & C coaches do not understand the full requirements of specifically the full extent to develop correctly a Middle Distance athlete. These S & C coaches belong on another planet i.e. maybe football or tennis, but should leave Middle Distance athletes to develop with their endurance coach.
My suggestion would be as it was many years ago that athletes should follow a general all round strength power programme with their specific endurance coach.
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50 ways to stop the decline of MD running « Result #38 on Dec 17, 2009, 3:00pm »
I’m a little puzzled why over the last 25 years MD performances in this country have deteriorated. Maybe it’s simply that training sessions in the old system have been thrown out of the window and replaced with methods introduced by modern day coaches introducing non scientific training methods.
Let me start my number one reason and maybe others can suggest their opinions.
1. Too much emphasis on tempo runs.
I know from a well known sports scientist that these tempo runs do not produce the desired training effect as the athlete and coach wish.
Re: 'Pass the parcel' NeonTiger's Sports Quiz « Result #40 on Dec 17, 2009, 12:01pm »
I'm so glad I was careful with the wording this time
Micheline won too many Olympic medals for this question - although what an athlete she must have been.
Someone else will have to check if Alexandra Tschudina qualifies on all counts as to be honest, I've had to resort to google and know nothing about her (presuming it's a "her" due to the "a" name ending and spelling of first name??)
Re: 'Pass the parcel' NeonTiger's Sports Quiz « Result #43 on Dec 17, 2009, 11:08am »
The young lady in question will be delighted. I've finally found a use for her amazing knowledge of foreign films. I've always said she'd be my phone a friend on who wants to be a millionaire.
Ok - I get the feeling that there's going to be more than one answer to this so I'm going to try to nail it down, without totally giving the answer away.
I was world record holder in one event, winning an Olympic medal, but also won medals (not olympic - but at major event level) in two others. None of these were track events or multi events, and one of them was an event you wouldn't usually associate with the others. Who am I?
Re: 'Pass the parcel' NeonTiger's Sports Quiz « Result #44 on Dec 17, 2009, 10:02am »
Obviously not obscure enough! Da Silva was double Olympic triple jump champion and a former world record holder in the 50's. He played the part of Death in the film which was filmed in Rio. I think you should get 1 point and your sister in law the other point!
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Re: 'Pass the parcel' NeonTiger's Sports Quiz « Result #45 on Dec 17, 2009, 12:55am »
Sneaky but I know my Triple Jumpers
Athlete was Adhemar da Silva. If there's an extra point for name of film that goes to my sister in law who tells me it was Black Orpheus - she claims it's very good.
Re: 'Pass the parcel' NeonTiger's Sports Quiz « Result #46 on Dec 16, 2009, 10:50pm »
OK an obscure one to get you searching and working a little harder for the point! Which South American athlete played a major part in an Oscar winning film (overseas film category)?
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Re: 'Pass the parcel' NeonTiger's Sports Quiz « Result #47 on Dec 16, 2009, 10:30pm »
Yes, Bill Toomey is correct. He won the decathlon at the Universiade in 1965 and was later Pan American Games champion (1967) and, of course, Olympic champion in 1968.
'In such a short period she contributed so much to athletics, much more than medal winning and records. Her vivacity and personality mirrored the sport, its fun, the hard work, the failure and the success, perfectly.' (John Rodda, 'The Guardian')
Re: 'Pass the parcel' NeonTiger's Sports Quiz « Result #48 on Dec 16, 2009, 10:17pm »
Bill Toomey? The Bruce Jenner programme has been mentioned before on this quiz and I did actually see it briefly a few weeks ago on one of the Freeview channels. It looked like he'd had a face job that had gone badly wrong!
Re: Sport England « Result #49 on Dec 16, 2009, 10:00pm »
And lets not forget that Sir Andrew Foster was the Chair of the Sport England Audit Committee from December 2003.
He held this position, as well as being on the Board of Sport England at the same time UK Athletics, UK Sport and Sport England were claiming his May 2004 report into Athletics to an independent review.
'In such a short period she contributed so much to athletics, much more than medal winning and records. Her vivacity and personality mirrored the sport, its fun, the hard work, the failure and the success, perfectly.' (John Rodda, 'The Guardian')
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